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Advanced LASIK Technology available at Dishler Laser


Dr. Jon Dishler discusses about the most advanced technology available at his Denver practice, including eye tracker, scanning laser, and all-laser LASIK.

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MR. TOM MARTINO: Let's move in to our segment here, our consumer segment, on LASIK. You know, you're always hearing about the very latest technology in LASIK. In fact, dentists advertise it. Everyone loves to talk about the latest technology. Well, first of all, I just want to tell you. Technology doesn't mean anything without the great application of that technology and also what really is good technology and does it matter if you have the latest technology? Let's talk about some of this technology when it comes to your eyes. So many of you are thinking about having it done or you have friends or loved ones. Dr. Jon Dishler is the founder of Dishler Lasik. And he is one of the most renowned surgeons in our area, nationwide as a matter of fact. He's been written up in national magazines. He was one of the pioneers. Dr. Jon Dishler is with a patient by the way. And this is Trisha Hunter—Officer Trisha Hunter. She's a police officer, yes. And you want good eyes, don't you? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Absolutely, I do. MR. TOM MARTINO: So what was your story? Did you wear glasses, contacts? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: I did for close to 40 years. MR. TOM MARTINO: Forty years. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Uh-huh. MR. TOM MARTINO: What made you decide to have LASIK right now? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: For probably about three, four years, I thought about it. And every year went by and, you know, hold off, hold off, and every year went by. This year, I had extra money in my flex account, my—you know, so— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] Good. And that's a good point, the flex account— DR. JON DISHLER: [interposing] Yes. MR. TOM MARTINO: --because you can do it before taxes, which is—which is 25 to 40% savings. DR. JON DISHLER: Right, right. MR. TOM MARTINO: And we'll talk about it, but flex savings is a great idea. So what did you do? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Well, I had heard about Dr. Dishler. I went on his website and I, you know, looked. I asked around, asked a lot of people, you know, how was it for you? Was it—are you getting what you want? Did you get the results? And of course, they were, you know, they were happy with the results. MR. TOM MARTINO: Were you a little nervous? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Absolutely. MR. TOM MARTINO: Now, when you went there, isn't it a comforting office? I love their office. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: It is, it is. It's very peaceful. MR. TOM MARTINO: It is. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: And— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] High tech, but not sterile kind of weird. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Right, right. And everybody was so nice. MR. TOM MARTINO: Yes. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Very nice. MR. TOM MARTINO: And what happened? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Well, I went there. And I consider myself lucky because I waited the last minute, the last week of the year. MR. TOM MARTINO: Yeah. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: And of course, I have this money that I need to take care of, and they were able to get me in. And they got me in. I think I went in on Monday, I believe it is, because I wasn't quite sure that they were going to be able to do my eyes. MR. TOM MARTINO: Why? What was wrong with your eyes? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: I had a double astigmatism. MR. TOM MARTINO: Wow. What's a double astigmatism, Dr. Dishler? DR. JON DISHLER: Well, she had really bad astigmatism. She had a lot of astigmatism. We've talked about that before. A lot of people have been told they can't have LASIK. MR. TOM MARTINO: Right. DR. JON DISHLER: But that's where the technology comes in, the newer technology. MR. TOM MARTINO: A double astigmatism. DR. JON DISHLER: Well, that's sort of a lay term. But she had— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] A lay term, okay. DR. JON DISHLER: --but she had astigmatism that was severe where her eyes were both farsighted and nearsighted. MR. TOM MARTINO: Okay, I see. DR. JON DISHLER: At the same time. But because we used this very small scanning spot laser that's very, very precise, along with the other technologies, the eye tracker— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] Yeah, and let's talk about that. DR. JON DISHLER: --different things like that, we were able to treat her. And in fact, I heard last time you were in you were seeing better than 20/20, like 20/15. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Yes, 20/15. DR. JON DISHLER: Which is really fantastic. MR. TOM MARTINO: So let's talk about that. What is an eye tracker? DR. JON DISHLER: Well, you know, in the beginning with the lasers it was—and people still think this—that they have to look in the right spot and if they look away— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] Yeah. DR. JON DISHLER: --that they're not going to get the right treatment. MR. TOM MARTINO: Here's what we have here. Now, what are we looking at here? DR. JON DISHLER: I don't know exactly what we're looking at. But the important point is that the eye tracker locks on the eye. It's a very— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] Okay. DR. JON DISHLER: --space—NASA space sort of thing. MR. TOM MARTINO: It locks on the eye, so let's forget about this because it— DR. JON DISHLER: [interposing] It locks on the eye. The eye can move around. I don't think this graphic's helping us too much. MR. TOM MARTINO: No, I think we might have the wrong graphic here. But in any case, go ahead. DR. JON DISHLER: But the eye tracker locks on the eye. So even if the patient moves their eye around quite a bit, they can move a lot during the procedure. It's still precise. MR. TOM MARTINO: Yeah, they're afraid, like, oh, my goodness. I can't move. I can't move. It will burn me. DR. JON DISHLER: Right. It will be in the wrong spot. MR. TOM MARTINO: Right. So the eye tracker kind of just moves with the eye. DR. JON DISHLER: Right, moves with the eye. MR. TOM MARTINO: While it's doing what it needs to do. DR. JON DISHLER: While it's doing the treatment. So as long as the patient's looking in the general right direction, we can very reproducibly get the exact right result. And this is so important for patients like Trisha, where they have a lot of astigmatism. It's very critical to get the treatment in the exact right spot. MR. TOM MARTINO: And scanning lasers. What's a— DR. JON DISHLER: [interposing] And then scanning laser—a laser beam is a very, very tiny—people don't realize. The old lasers were a bit fat— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] Beam? DR. JON DISHLER: Beam, kind of like your marker here. MR. TOM MARTINO: And there's a scanning laser, yeah. DR. JON DISHLER: And the new lasers, this is what we have is a very, very fine beam. It's kind of like the size of a piece of angel hair pasta. MR. TOM MARTINO: Really? DR. JON DISHLER: It's very, very tiny. And it can move around and very precisely etch the exact shape that we want, and very, very quickly. Most of the treatments take less than 30 seconds. I imagine your treatment was just a few seconds. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: About 12 I think they said, 12 seconds. MR. TOM MARTINO: Twelve seconds per eye? DR. JON DISHLER: So this very fine beam can go around and just precisely put the treatment exact where it's needed. MR. TOM MARTINO: What about—what about wave front? What's that wave front ablations? DR. JON DISHLER: Wave front, you know, not to get too technical, but we try to reshape the eye, but still leave it with its natural shape that is good. Like, it's so important in police work to have good vision, good high contrast vision, so that you can see—you know, it's like cameras. In daytime, seeing 20/20 isn't the whole story. You have to have good night vision, good vision under low light conditions. MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Absolutely. MR. TOM MARTINO: And what are we looking here, this chart? DR. JON DISHLER: And this is all the different wave front type of errors that the human eye can have. MR. TOM MARTINO: Oh, really? DR. JON DISHLER: And what we try to do, we map this for every patient and we look at what all their wave fronts are. MR. TOM MARTINO: So are these shapes of their eye? DR. JON DISHLER: These are all—it breaks it down kind of like music is broken down into notes. MR. TOM MARTINO: Yes. DR. JON DISHLER: This is breaking down vision into all the individual little subparts of the shape that contribute to overall how we see. And we take that into account with the treatment. This is the custom—custom part of the treatment. MR. TOM MARTINO: And you do a wave front ablation. DR. JON DISHLER: Wave front or customized ablation, right. MR. TOM MARTINO: So that—and so, each one, each program is exactly tailored to the person. DR. JON DISHLER: Right. We tailor to the particular patient's eyes and needs and so forth. MR. TOM MARTINO: So you literally map the eye. DR. JON DISHLER: Right, we map it. MR. TOM MARTINO: Is it like a fingerprint? Is it that unique? DR. JON DISHLER: It is unique as a fingerprint, yes it is. MR. TOM MARTINO: Okay. Now, what I want to talk about, too, is Dr. Jon Dishler and his crew will have some experts to answer your questions in our help center, so please keep that in mind. So when you call the show, (303) MARTINO, it's 627-8466, just specify if you want to talk to the Help Center about LASIK or if you want to talk to us here on the air. Let's talk about all laser LASIK. We always hear about all laser LASIK? DR. JON DISHLER: All laser LASIK means you through away the blade. You don't use a razor blade. MR. TOM MARTINO: So there's nothing you do to cut on the eye? DR. JON DISHLER: There's no cutting. It's all done with lasers. Again, very precise, very reproducible, very quick recovery. MR. TOM MARTINO: And a very thin flap because of that? DR. JON DISHLER: And a very, very thin flap. The flaps now are as thin as a sheet of paper, much thinner, which lets us—it's safer and it lets the—us treat people that weren't able to be treated before. And it just results in a very pristine eye afterwards. And that's what we really want, because we need people like Trisha, who are so important to protecting us. MR. TOM MARTINO: Yes. DR. JON DISHLER: She's got to be able to see and see the good guys from the bad guys. MR. TOM MARTINO: How is your—by the way, we do have a call. But how is your sight right now after? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: Fantastic. MR. TOM MARTINO: Well, is it better than you thought? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: A lot better, a lot better. MR. TOM MARTINO: No glasses, no assistance? MS. TRISHA HUNTER: No glasses, no. MR. TOM MARTINO: Okay. We have Carolyn, I believe, on the phone who has a question for Dr. Jon Dishler. Carolyn, are you there? CAROLYN: Yes. MR. TOM MARTINO: Okay. What's your question? CAROLYN: I have a question. I had LASIK done 11 years ago and I'm now beginning not to read the small print again. MR. TOM MARTINO: Yeah, that happens. CAROLYN: Can you get LASIK redone? MR. TOM MARTINO: Can you? Okay, she had LASIK done 11 years ago. DR. JON DISHLER: Right. MR. TOM MARTINO: And now, she's starting to see a little tiny fuzzy close up. What do you think? DR. JON DISHLER: Well, it could be a lot of things. It could be her age that she just is having problems with her reading vision. It could be something— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] Can it be touched up? DR. JON DISHLER: It may be able to be. My recommendation, come on in. All of our exams are at no charge. She can come in, get an evaluation. We'd be happy— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] So it's a free evaluation or a complimentary evaluation. DR. JON DISHLER: Yeah. MR. TOM MARTINO: So, but Dr. Dishler, you've done plenty of tune ups. DR. JON DISHLER: Right, absolutely. MR. TOM MARTINO: And that's the important thing. You've done plenty of tune ups. And again, on the medical savings accounts and the flex accounts, LASIK is covered. So in other words— DR. JON DISHLER: [interposing] Absolutely. It's not a cosmetic procedure. MR. TOM MARTINO: Right. DR. JON DISHLER: Therefore, it's covered. So— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] So you can do it before taxes. DR. JON DISHLER: Right. MR. TOM MARTINO: That's important. DR. JON DISHLER: Absolutely. MR. TOM MARTINO: And that's what Officer Trisha Hunter did. Now, here's a special offer. It's the lowest guaranteed price custom, bladeless LASIK. Please don't fall for those really low come ons, because if you really compare the care before, during, and after, you will never get anything less expensive than here. (303) 793-3000. A free consultant, as you just heard, or exam, with no obligation, plus 24 months of financing with approved credit with zero percent. That's zero percent. So this is really a great deal. DR. JON DISHLER: And can I just show these— MR. TOM MARTINO: [interposing] Yes. DR. JON DISHLER: --binoculars here real quick? MR. TOM MARTINO: Oh, yeah. Go ahead. You brought those. (303) 793-3000 or on the web at dishler.com. (303) 793-3000. You want to show these binoculars. Tell me what these binoculars are all about. DR. JON DISHLER: Well, these binoculars we got for a show and we have a couple hundred extra ones. MR. TOM MARTINO: Really? DR. JON DISHLER: It was for a group of optometrists or eye doctors, and these are really nice binoculars. MR. TOM MARTINO: Yes, Vivitar. DR. JON DISHLER: They're made by Vivitar. They've got our name on them. But they're free for anyone that wants to come in and have a consultation. There is no obligation. MR. TOM MARTINO: Wow. DR. JON DISHLER: We just will give you a pair just to come in and meet us and say hi. MR. TOM MARTINO: So you're going to have these given away until they run out for anyone who simply books an appointment, a complimentary exam. DR. JON DISHLER: Right. MR. TOM MARTINO: So you don't have to worry. There is no obligation. Even if you don't have the surgery or decide not to have it or you're not a candidate, you still get the binoculars. DR. JON DISHLER: Yes, and they're really nice.