Denver LASIK surgeon Dr. Jon Dishler discusses about LASIK and its financial benefit on Martino TV. According to the analysis, LASIK is actually saving you a lot of money in a long-run.
MR. TOM MARTINO: There are a lot of things that keep people from getting LASIK. You knowâ€š one is fear but you know Dr. Jon Dishler and his crew take fear out of it. Everyone who's ever thought about LASIK and then hesitatedâ€š went to him calls me or e mails me or comes on the show and says it was a great experienceâ€š nothing that I thought. Another thing is cost. People say oh, it's going to be so expensiveâ€š but we've shown you from Dr. Jon Dishler how it can be actually very affordable. In factâ€š when you compare the same technology, the same actual correction and all the advances they do and all of the careâ€š you can't get it less expensive than at Dr. Dishler's place. Bult what about people say you know whatâ€š wellâ€š it's still more expensive than glasses. Okayâ€š I'm going to go to Walgreensâ€š I'm going to buy glasses or I'm going to get contact lenses or I have glassesâ€š I'm just going to stay with glasses certainly that will save me money. So they say yeahâ€š I know that Dr. Jon Dishler might be very reasonableâ€š but I'm still going to save money if I just leave it the way it is until the economy gels better or I just I've been doing this too long.
DR. JON DISHLER: You knowâ€š Tomâ€š I have just had my own eyes open because I thought people just came in and had LASIKâ€š I've been doing it for 15 yearsâ€š 50,000 casesâ€š all this stuffâ€š I thought peep m came in and had it done because they wanted to sigh betterâ€š they didn't want the inconvenience of glassesâ€š contactsâ€š and so forth. And I was amazed when we did an analysis ex when we looked at other analyses that have been done by other people how much money over a lifetime people saved by having LASIK. It actually for someone in their 20sâ€š they can save as much as 40,000 dollars or more on glassesâ€š contactsâ€š eye exams. It's just amazing that it's a great investment in yourself. Not only do you get the benefitsâ€š but you also get a tremendous savings. Even people in their 40s and 50s in just three or four years get back whatever they paid for the procedure and then start actually like an investment making money on it. MR. MARTINO: So if we take a lookâ€š for exampleâ€š prescription eye glassesâ€š about 200 dollars you're saying every other yearâ€š prescription sun glasses 350 every other yearâ€š contact lensesâ€š 40 dollarsâ€š so if you look at the agesâ€š so let's say someone 55. Over a lifetimeâ€š $22,000. Wow. $22,000â€š or more than 22,000. Nowâ€š this is LASIK and year examsâ€š by the way. That does not - - the LASIK is much cheaper than that. But even if you throw on that yearly examsâ€š you're still saving almost 17,000 dollars. Rightâ€š we're considering the LASIKâ€š having yearly exams after the LASIK as compared to just wearing glassesâ€š contactsâ€š most of the people we see wear contacts. Nowâ€š there's a mix. Some people only wear glasses.
MR. MARTINO: Right.
DR. DISHLER: But when you take on average peopleâ€š it's actually a great - - and this doesn't take into account things like flexible spending accountsâ€š you knowâ€š tax deductibilityâ€š this is just straight on. So the take home message I think from this isn'tâ€š it doesn't matter exactly within a certain range what the LASIK costs. The cost of the LASIK is a relatively small number compared to the savings so long as the person gets a good result and the doctor stands behind it.
MR. MARTINO: The younger you areâ€š the more you save.
DR. DISHLER: Absolutely.
MR. MARTINO: I don't understand that.
DR. DISHLER: Wellâ€š because every year there's a savings. So as you get older and olderâ€š if you have it done when you're 20 then between the ages of 20 and 70â€š you have 50 years of good vision where you're not all those years having to buy glassesâ€š contactsâ€š all those things. And yesâ€š when people get over 45 or soâ€š they need reading glassesâ€š but they can get inexpensive Walgreen type glasses for that. But it's the peopleâ€š especially with astigmatismâ€š those glasses and those contacts are veryâ€š very expensive. It's just amazing.
MR. MARTINO: And it's not getting any cheaper either.
DR. DISHLER: And it's not getting any cheaper.
MR. MARTINO: Nowâ€š let's say someone at 20â€š they have LASIK. Will they ever need an enhancement?
DR. DISHLER: Wellâ€š our experience has been that about 1 or 2% need an enhancement in the first yearâ€š we provide that at no charge. And then after that'sâ€š a very small purseâ€š maybe one in a thousand will need something more done five to 10 years later.
MR. MARTINO: Really.
DR. DISHLER: So for most people it's a lifetime procedure as long as it's done properly the first time.
MR. MARTINO: So if it's done properlyâ€š it can correct your eyes and you could be set.
DR. DISHLER: Right.
MR. MARTINO: Nowâ€š umâ€š when we talk about savingsâ€š let's talk about the prices of LASIK and people I know are saying wellâ€š Tomâ€š I've heard about $499 and he was quoting five thousand for LASIK and follow up here. By the wayâ€š the actual LASIK procedure is around 3,000 for everything and we can get into specifics. But how does that compare y. know people and we haven't revisited this in awhile. People say butâ€š Tom, what about $499, I hear it all the time.
DR. DISHLER: It's as low as $499.
MR. MARTINO: I know. Which is almost
DR. DISHLER: Which is almost never. People y meanâ€š people that work in those places that I've talked to say less than 1% of people qualify for that price.
MR. MARTINO: Less than 1%.
DR. DISHLER: Right.
MR. MARTINO: Because that's if you go in and this particular laser can treat youâ€š if you don't have any abnormalitiesâ€š right?
DR. DISHLER: Rightâ€š you have their old laserâ€š you don't have the newest technologyâ€š you have very low retractionâ€š you don't have any astigmatismâ€š if you fall into that groupâ€š
MR. MARTINO: Which is a little group.
DR. DISHLER: Which is a little groupâ€š you can have it for that price. But the whole point of our discussion today is it's worth the investment to get the best laserâ€š the best technologyâ€š and for most people they wouldn't qualify for that anywayâ€š even if it's a little more expensive. And most of our patientsâ€š many of our patients now have taken advantage of our no interest financing. So they're paying it off over two years. You knowâ€š over that two yearsâ€š most of the savings that they're going to gets is sort of paying them back. So net costâ€š it's almost a wash by the time they get to two yearsâ€š evenâ€š you know, paying a slightly higher price for that procedure.
MR. MARTINO: Not only thatâ€š not only a savingsâ€š but the convenience - - we've talked to peopleâ€š Dr. Dishlerâ€š who could not see anything. They were legally blind.
DR. DISHLER: Rightâ€š right.
MR. MARTINO: And you have extraordinary results. So in the evaluation processâ€š people I know people are askingâ€š can I get itâ€š do I qualify, and we always hear u stigmatism. Before somebody even callsâ€š I'm going to say that's what they're going to ask. By the wayâ€š you can call with any questionsâ€š (303)Martino. but what about astigmatism?
DR. DISHLER: Wellâ€š almost everybody, I mean 2/3 of people I should say, not everybodyâ€š have some degree of astigmatism that we fix.
MR. MARTINO: Okay.
DR. DISHLER: Some have it worse and some have it not that bad.
MR. MARTINO: And that's an uneven eyeâ€š right?
DR. DISHLER: And that's an uneven shape to the eye. It's also the newer lasers correct the vision in a much more natural way to get a
MR. MARTINO: And a bigger area?
DR. DISHLER: A bigger areaâ€š good night visionâ€š it's not just what you can see in a brightly lit room on an eye chartâ€š whether that's 20/20.
MR. MARTINO: Right.
DR. DISHLER: Everybody 20/20â€š I meanâ€š just aboutâ€š you know? It's how good the vision isâ€š do people feel like they have natural vision dayâ€š nightâ€š nearâ€š far that makes them feel like they were born with good eyes. That's what we're trying to accomplish and that's whatâ€š for most peopleâ€š we can accomplish.
MR. MARTINO: All rightâ€š we have a phone call from Mary. Maryâ€š welcome to Martino TVâ€š helloâ€š Maryâ€š what's happening?
DR. BEAKS: Hi. Can you tell meâ€š does LASIK do any good on glaucoma?
MR. MARTINO: Glaucoma?
DR. BEAKS: Uh huh.
MR. MARTINO: And LASIK.
DR. DISHLER: Wellâ€š if the glaucoma is well controlledâ€š people can have LASIK. We work with the glaucoma
MR. MARTINO: It doesn't correct glaucoma.
DR. DISHLER: It doesn't correct glaucomaâ€š no. Glaucoma means there's too much pressure in the eyeâ€š it's MR. MARTINO: Too pressurized and does that affectâ€š does glaucoma in itself affect vision?
DR. DISHLER: In generalâ€š no.
MR. MARTINO: Okay.
DR. DISHLER: In generalâ€š no.
MR. MARTINO: But you still have to treat that. That is nothing to do with the LASIK part of it.
DR. DISHLER: Right. They call glaucoma the silent thief of vision because it takes away vision without any symptoms because the eye pressure is too highâ€š you can't feel that in your eyesâ€š and you can slowly lose your peripheral vision.
MR. MARTINO: How is that corrected?
DR. DISHLER: It's corrected usually by medicationâ€š by eye dropsâ€š and we screen everybody for glaucoma as part of our evaluation.
MR. MARTINO: You screen them for that?
DR. DISHLER: We screen them for glaucomaâ€š for cataractsâ€š for retinal problems. So you have to have healthy eyes to have LASIK. But we do treat people that have previously had retinal detachmentsâ€š that have had glaucomaâ€š that have even had cataract surgery with LASIK. But LASIK is to correct vision so that a person doesn't need glasses or contacts. It has either healthy eyes or eyes that have been treated med clea.
MR. MARTINO: I want to mentionâ€š Jon Dishler had an honor at Gold Line. Can you explain? Gold line goes out and ranks thengsâ€š ranks peopleâ€š they do not accept any moneyâ€š you can't pay to be on this listâ€š and they picked around the country how many LASIK surgeons?
DR. DISHLER: Ten.
MR. MARTINO: And in the entire country.
DR. DISHLER: In the entire country.
MR. MARTINO: And you're on the list.
DR. DISHLER: Yes. Yesâ€š they picked us. We're very honored. They looked at about a half a dozen people from Coloradoâ€š they picked usâ€š and that's just we're very honored by that. And they look at
MR. MARTINO: And they have published it in
DR. DISHLER: They published it in Forbes magazineâ€š they look at your experienceâ€š your resultsâ€š umâ€š whetherâ€š you knowâ€š they actually talk to people who have come to you and so it's a real honor. We really are very happy.
MR. MARTINO: And this has brought patients from all over to Dr. Jon Dishler. You're fortunate you just have to go to the tech centerâ€š and it's the lowest guaranteed price for the same technology and custom bladeless LASIK. Listen to thisâ€š 0% interestâ€š free financingâ€š when financing is tightâ€š he's offering 0% with approved creditâ€š free financing for 24 monthsâ€š at the guaranteed lowest price and this is a wonderful offer. So you can give them a call at (303)793-3000, Dr. Jon Dishler, you see him on the show, he's our expert. You can always call or e mail and we'll get the questions to him. (303)793-3000, or on the web at dishler.com, that's dishler.com.